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Mar 17, 2021 6:58 PM
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Isn't this whole situation a little bit too fucked up? Like, geez man, I feel bad for the wife.
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gosh sylphie is so adorable
Mar 26, 2021 9:27 PM
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Well, this might be an unpopular opinion here but its what I took from the episode! And sadly its the disgust and hatred for Paul's character. So far in the series I just thought he's a young father trying his best to act like a dad to a smart ass kid, but honestly after cheating Zenith and Rudeus (as a family) by getting the family maid pregnant! Jeez.... How much a shit head can a person (character) get. I was carefully read the subtitles and Paul deflowered Lilia when they were younger (which could also be a potential rape situation - not sure tho but it looked like that was intended). Then I fail to understand how after having a prior with Paul she's still a maid at his house and Zenith lets her be under the same roof as him knowing that. Plus how can you forgive a person who just cheated on you with your fucking maid ? And why was Rudy even allowed to talk on this situation? And why did he chose to protect the woman and man who betrayed his mom?

Tbh, I feel so much anger, so much disgust at the entire premise. If I was Zenith, being a mage, I would have just used a sacred level fore spell to turn him as in Paul to ash ryt there and then kicked out Lilia the next day! Scum like Paul deserve death a million times... This wasn't a hentai show, where such sleazy writing was okay.... I am so disappointed and angry...


And btw, I am not a child or a newbie in trashy anime as well. I am a working adult with proper understanding of how relationships work as well as I have watched alot of questionable animes in the past which includes (redo of healer and domestic girlfriend) but rape or forced deflower and cheating was crossing the line for me....
Mar 26, 2021 9:30 PM
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1202 said:
Cool. So Paul's a cheating rapist and we're expected to just... move forward from that? LOL? I understand Lilia's baby is probably an important future character for serving Rudeus or whatever but couldn't they have brought about Lilia's and Rudy's "in-debt" relationship dynamic in ANY other way besides having a (physically) 7-year-old child cover for a homewrecker?

Also fuck the way this implied that grown men and women literally cannot control themselves. Lilia sucks but honestly Paul is more to blame, dude gets some from Zenith EVERY SINGLE NIGHT yet still had the nerve to be unfaithful lol. Sees one other naked body and decides shiiiii shordy let me risk my entire family's happiness and stability for this. Motherfucker not only did you know what you were doing, you have a wife, a kid, and you're EXPECTING ANOTHER.

This was so dumb and unnecessary hhh like why.



Man I feel you! Paul should have suffered for such consequences! Death penalty would have made me happy !
Mar 26, 2021 9:31 PM
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arpx said:
Isn't this whole situation a little bit too fucked up? Like, geez man, I feel bad for the wife.


I am still trying to calm myself down ! So angry at him....
Mar 26, 2021 9:33 PM
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1202 said:
Cool. So Paul's a cheating rapist and we're expected to just... move forward from that? LOL? I understand Lilia's baby is probably an important future character for serving Rudeus or whatever but couldn't they have brought about Lilia's and Rudy's "in-debt" relationship dynamic in ANY other way besides having a (physically) 7-year-old child cover for a homewrecker?

Also fuck the way this implied that grown men and women literally cannot control themselves. Lilia sucks but honestly Paul is more to blame, dude gets some from Zenith EVERY SINGLE NIGHT yet still had the nerve to be unfaithful lol. Sees one other naked body and decides shiiiii shordy let me risk my entire family's happiness and stability for this. Motherfucker not only did you know what you were doing, you have a wife, a kid, and you're EXPECTING ANOTHER.

This was so dumb and unnecessary hhh like why.


Yeah, how the family just forgave him was... unnecessary. Though, Lillia did seduce Paul.


I didn't know why Zenith forgave him. If it was my mother, my dad would have received a divorce and restraining order with full custody of children! Paul was such a scum... worst kind !


As it stands, there were only 2 options for Zenith -
1) leave the house with Rudy and her unborn child (she used to be an adventurer and cudav made a journey on her own with a super talented kid mage
2) Either kick out both Paul and Lilia or kill them simultaneously! Penalty of betrayal should be death (tho ahe would've gone to prison for that, making rudy alone with no guardian)
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Paul: you want to become cool man like ur dad?

Rudeus: Is it cool to cheat on ur wife and almost wreck ur family?

that kid know how to roast hes father lol


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The description is so ambiguous that it could be argued in either direction.

Regardless, she still slept with him because she lusted for him from all those years when he attacked her in the Dojo.


Lmao, how the hell is that ambiguous? It's explicitly clear that it's rape. How are you comprehending "forced attack" as anything but rape? You are rationalizing at this point. Even in the anime, it's made pretty clear.





before they said seduced either the show is contradicting itself or they made the char change how he frames it or the translation is wrong but before that they mentioned seduction (her seducing him) not forcing so it was weird to hear that part, the contradiction is weird some1 somewhere made a mistake

also the fact that the father said 1night to her not to pull out if she doesn't want it to come out (meaning she had the power in the relationship), if it were forced she wouldn't have continued the relationship with him until she got pregro and it came out, that part was mentioned
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It's been so long since I binge watched 4 episodes of an anime in 1 day, I feel so weeb rn lol.

oh shit, the cheating was unexpected, and it feel very real and all, but well... I mean, Paul cheating wasn't really unexpected, the man was a casanova since ep 1, but the pregnancy really was, and the way they approached the whole thing too.

I hope they aren't trying to separate the MC from his friend, if so that will be so fucked up, fuck that
Apr 13, 2021 8:54 PM

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AivanK said:
Damn, for sure didn't expect the family drama that happened, and the fact that Lilia is at fault makes it even worse. But i do love the realistic side of it, his whole relationship with his father, overall the whole situation was indeed represented very realistically!


Care to explain where that was realistic?

If it were irl that would AT LEAST end up with both Paul and Zennith breaking up their relationship (this would be the realistic outcome, not they solving it as if it were nothing). Unless there is such a saint and good woman like Zennith irl, which I bet there isn´t xD And the maid would probably be unemployed or working at another house by that moment xD
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Apr 20, 2021 1:50 AM
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paul is the chad of this anime cheating,keeping this kid away from that bitchass elf. my man keep it up
Apr 28, 2021 7:41 AM

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Another great episode, looks like we're moving forward!
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May 3, 2021 2:59 PM

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Paul's quite the enigma. He's an asshole who makes so many mistakes, from cheating on his wife with the maid he knew for a long time (and revealed to have also slept with long before Paul and Zenith were together), to beating up Rudeus without questioning what happened when Rudeus took out the bullies who were targeting Sylphiette, to even just sending his ass packing in a fight and knocking him unconscious to prevent Rudeus from sticking around due to wanting to be with Sylphiette there/work to earn tuition for both of them. He's a guy that has the right intentions and heart at times, but fucks up in so many ways in other times that it's astounding. But while I can't support him morally, gotta admit, definitely an interesting character to say the least to watch, especially when reading the books later on.

Nice seeing Rudeus months before having to leave his family (now including two sisters as well), actually help Lilia out with the assist that saved the whole family and household from completely falling apart to disaster. While Rudeus fabricated some stuff there, Paul was in the wrong for falling for the Lilia trap in the first place, along with Lilia for tempting him too. Sure, sexual drive is there for Lilia as a growing woman, especially when you hear the two of them go at it like animals every night, but the whole ordeal was just doomed to end in chaos if it wasn't for Rudeus' cheeky save through his plea towards his mom.

One aspect about Mushoku Tensei's writing I love in general is how the story never feels stagnant and same for characterization as a whole, and after introducing the cast and world to a very basic degree, it's time for Rudeus to finally leave his comfort zone and explore new areas that he's never been to as well as tutor Eris so he can afford to go to university and evolve as a mage to prevent his stagnancy from eating his potential away.
May 20, 2021 1:40 AM
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such a disgusting display of degeneracy in this episode. Paul ra*ed Lilia and apparently the dick was so good that she became their maid. And now she lusted after Paul (ofc this female character is written by an isekai writer what a surprise).

and nobody talks about child grooming here. Rudy was canonically a p*do before his death in LN. I am fine with that. Portraying something taboo isn't wrong but this show handles this topic like shit. Even after his death he is still bedhumping to the thoughts of 7 year old girl. He is flat out saying that he wants to groom her. Where is the growth in his character? I thought he was supposed to redeem himself.

This is just fucking tragic that this show could've been just so darn good without the author's disgusting fantasies.
May 20, 2021 2:01 AM
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TTagain said:
such a disgusting display of degeneracy in this episode. Paul ra*ed Lilia and apparently the dick was so good that she became their maid. And now she lusted after Paul (ofc this female character is written by an isekai writer what a surprise).

and nobody talks about child grooming here. Rudy was canonically a p*do before his death in LN. I am fine with that. Portraying something taboo isn't wrong but this show handles this topic like shit. Even after his death he is still bedhumping to the thoughts of 7 year old girl. He is flat out saying that he wants to groom her. Where is the growth in his character? I thought he was supposed to redeem himself.

This is just fucking tragic that this show could've been just so darn good without the author's disgusting fantasies.

Nah, if Paul wasn't a rapist, and rudeus wasnt a horny mc with pedo tendecies. This anime won't be good.
Having a rapist and a groomer as mc makes this a unique asf anime , I would drop it if rudeus wasn't a pervert
May 23, 2021 12:37 AM
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I knew it was a matter of time before Zenith got pregnant, but Lillia too?

I had a feeling something bad was going to happen, but that actually have be shook for a minute. This family is a freaking mess and have me uncomfortable the whole episode. I hope we get a little more explanation, because as an anime-only I feel like we're missing something.

That something along with this the manga-readers hyping up this isekai is the main reason I'm still hopeful for this anime. Getting 1.5/3 strikes while only 4 episodes in has me concerned but still 🤞 please prove me wrong with good story.
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Paul just fucked with every adult girl in that house. He's a horny person lol.
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TTagain said:
such a disgusting display of degeneracy in this episode. Paul ra*ed Lilia and apparently the dick was so good that she became their maid. And now she lusted after Paul (ofc this female character is written by an isekai writer what a surprise).

and nobody talks about child grooming here. Rudy was canonically a p*do before his death in LN. I am fine with that. Portraying something taboo isn't wrong but this show handles this topic like shit. Even after his death he is still bedhumping to the thoughts of 7 year old girl. He is flat out saying that he wants to groom her. Where is the growth in his character? I thought he was supposed to redeem himself.

This is just fucking tragic that this show could've been just so darn good without the author's disgusting fantasies.

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TTagain said:
such a disgusting display of degeneracy in this episode. Paul ra*ed Lilia and apparently the dick was so good that she became their maid. And now she lusted after Paul (ofc this female character is written by an isekai writer what a surprise).

and nobody talks about child grooming here. Rudy was canonically a p*do before his death in LN. I am fine with that. Portraying something taboo isn't wrong but this show handles this topic like shit. Even after his death he is still bedhumping to the thoughts of 7 year old girl. He is flat out saying that he wants to groom her. Where is the growth in his character? I thought he was supposed to redeem himself.

This is just fucking tragic that this show could've been just so darn good without the author's disgusting fantasies.

Nah, if Paul wasn't a rapist, and rudeus wasnt a horny mc with pedo tendecies. This anime won't be good.
Having a rapist and a groomer as mc makes this a unique asf anime , I would drop it if rudeus wasn't a pervert



i rewatched it he didn't rape her the threat kind of thing was MC's little lie to save the maid it was confirmed even she said she seduced him cause their sex sound drew her to braking point so she had to get hes D, she just said it in other words slightly differently

but he is asshole despite that

yea perverts are funny :D
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Sugram22 said:
TTagain said:
such a disgusting display of degeneracy in this episode. Paul ra*ed Lilia and apparently the dick was so good that she became their maid. And now she lusted after Paul (ofc this female character is written by an isekai writer what a surprise).

and nobody talks about child grooming here. Rudy was canonically a p*do before his death in LN. I am fine with that. Portraying something taboo isn't wrong but this show handles this topic like shit. Even after his death he is still bedhumping to the thoughts of 7 year old girl. He is flat out saying that he wants to groom her. Where is the growth in his character? I thought he was supposed to redeem himself.

This is just fucking tragic that this show could've been just so darn good without the author's disgusting fantasies.

RebelPandaSFan said:

Nah, if Paul wasn't a rapist, and rudeus wasnt a horny mc with pedo tendecies. This anime won't be good.
Having a rapist and a groomer as mc makes this a unique asf anime , I would drop it if rudeus wasn't a pervert



i rewatched it he didn't rape her the threat kind of thing was MC's little lie to save the maid it was confirmed even she said she seduced him cause their sex sound drew her to braking point so she had to get hes D, she just said it in other words slightly differently

but he is asshole despite that
no actually as per the novel, he did rape her. But she liked it,
So it's a win win
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Ghislaine huh.. she seems ehm.. very interesting ;)
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Japanese animes shows every girl in a different angle.
Rudes have a girlfriend and two sisters.He is such a lucky boy.The fantasy life is really something..
Sep 25, 2021 8:56 AM
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•Caralho mano, nos três episódeos anteriores eu nem se quer pensei sobre a Lilia também escutar o casal fudendo com força. Se até a Roxy que ficou apenas dois anos na casa deles ficava se dedilhando ao som do casal, amagino agora como a Lilia deve ter passado sem ter nenhum parceiro para fazer também.
•Essa foi torturada por muito, muito tempo, tadinha. Mas bem que a Lilia e a Zenith pederia se ajudar agora(se pegando também oras).
Paul filho da pu**, lixo de homem.
•Que bom que ela não foi embora.
•Uma questão que me deixou muito intrigado foi: Será que uma das bebezinhas(tão fofinhas) também são uma reencarnação igual o Rudes?
•Depois desse final acho que terei que continuar assistindo com a porta do quarto trancada. kkkkkkk.
•Que físico era aquele da Ghislaine(design esquisito, mas bem legal. kkkkkk)
Sep 29, 2021 2:10 PM

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Paul you absolute legend! Deflowering girls as often as taking shots!
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1. MOM is great!
2. Scums.. both FATHER & SON! (At least, father is not alone, which I liked)
3. GHISLAINE



That must've been hard for ZENITH, but she is someone who listened and did the right thing, at least considering the CHILD of LILITH.
Thanks Mom!

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RUDEUS : Putting it mildly, PAUL is scum. But despite all his faults, I respect this man. Why? Because he's strong.

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Sylphiette, don't cry 🥺


Paul, best dad and husband. Rudy bow has two little sisters.

Ghislaine 😳
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Rudy said:
Well my father is a scummy as he gets but I respect him, I am a scum too!
Oh thanks modern socially awkward Rudy isekaid into medieval times with even ancient values, child labor, demons, elves, beastmen/women and survival of the fittest! You belong in that world Rudy, congrats!

I do not condone Paul's current actions even from his past (she raped Lilia before) heck it might be acceptable socially, way back in our real world history but our values, norms, morals, circumstances and ethics are vastly different now from their's or even from our own past.
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Nov 10, 2021 2:28 AM

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lmao.. he didnt want to stop being able to snif her panties -.-
Nov 12, 2021 5:07 PM

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that was very unexpected episode :O in many parts ;d
but they could draw naked Lilya a lot better.. it was some amateur that did her.. a big waste...
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Nov 30, 2021 4:34 AM

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Man, a lot happened in this episode but I just wanna say this. Fuck Paul. He almost ruined a perfect life with his wonderful family. And the fact that he raped Lilia when they were younger? He's worse than scum. Why do they even need a maid anyway? Zenith is a housewife and Paul is almost always at home too.
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The episode starting out with dad knocking up mom and the maid was quite a shock after Rudy discovering his first love. Then it turns out Dad and the Maid were former lovers and classmates. That's bad enough but what Dad did to Rudy at the end? What a dick! but it was still an incredible episode
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Okay I went from thinking Paul was great to finding out he’s a total piece of shit but I kind of like that. Glad there’s something going on here instead of just your role model dad bringing up a middle aged child. Weird how he raped Lilia and she came to work for him and want another go at him, the author definitely living out a sick fantasy with that one! I wonder if Rudy was a pe**o or if he was just watching hentai! Ghislaine tho we definitely needed a badass cat woman in this anime.
Feb 7, 2022 6:31 PM

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more ridiculous sex crap. seriously how much effort did the author put into this writing
Feb 10, 2022 10:46 AM

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Oh my, that new character has quite the design. 😳
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Feb 23, 2022 6:27 AM

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Another great episode.

I went 😬😬😬😬 after hearing that Lilia was pregnant with Paul's child. The atmosphere sure was tense there. Rudy saved Lilia and Zenith ended up forgiving Paul for some reason IDK why.

LOL Roxy knew Rudy stole her pantsu hahah.

Paul started fighting Rudy out of nowhere bruh. Guess we'll find out where that onee chan is taking him in next episode.

5/5.

The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama.
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Man, I knew there were some catch to the Father xD, based on his personality.

I was wondering how the maid is pregnant, when i've never seen her walked out the house.

LOL, Roxy knew about Rudy spying and stealing her panties? xD

I wonder how the family is able to afford a maid though.

Currently, i'm a very happy boy after seeing Ghislaine.....

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Mar 4, 2022 2:10 AM

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Paul is a scumbag, hope he dies.
Apr 7, 2022 7:41 AM

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That start of the episode though. My first "WTF" moment in this series. Had me facepalming with a shocked face for a while XD
This is gonna be one heck of a horny Anime, won't it? Not complaining. As long as it's not Rudy (Middle-aged man inside) lewding on loli characters, I can make peace with it LOL
(They won't do that right?... They won't... right?)

EDIT: OMG. I backread a bit and what I've been getting is, it's all-out justifying indecency in the LN? So the Anime is basically sugar-coating? Welp. That changes everything. I'll watch with caution from now on.
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Congrats to Paul and Zenith for having a baby and Lilia their maid oh no I think we know where this is going, Smooth talking by Rudy handling the situation but covering it with some lies but the end justifies the means they say

Yeah Paul's gotta be a bit mad at Rudy looking that he's hitting hard at him but it looks like Lilia has a duty to serve more like her daughter at least to Rudy, Sylphie crying again that is not a sight to see but I'm glad Rudy's there to be there for her

Roxy's letter seems like she already knew about that "holy relic" Rudy has lol even Paul knows it now, And oh no he's going far I'm concerned for Sylphie hope she's going to be strong about this.

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Only on an anime forum would you see people arguing that 'attacking' a woman during her sleeping, and 'deflowering' her without her consent isn't rape, rofl. Paul is a scum and so is the MC, pretty good world building, fantastic production, but the way this series is handling the women is grossly distasteful. People are mentioning GOT as if that makes Mushoku any better. At least GOT tried to portray it in a negative light, the p*dophilia in this anime is being glossed over like it's not a big deal.

To think Rudeus was worse in the LN
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Edit: I’m also seeing a lot of people complain(not specifically MAL, but Reddit, twitter etc) that Paul raped lilia. He didn’t. The anime doesn’t go into as much detail as the books obviously, but Lilia was very willing and admits to actively trying to seduce Paul. They’d also slept together years ago when they were younger.


Eh. People are always looking for something to complain about. I did at first think that he raped her with the story that Rudy gave. But she made it clear that it was consensual. Although, it's still pretty messed up that Paul cheated on his wife.
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Marinate1016 said:

Edit: I’m also seeing a lot of people complain(not specifically MAL, but Reddit, twitter etc) that Paul raped lilia. He didn’t. The anime doesn’t go into as much detail as the books obviously, but Lilia was very willing and admits to actively trying to seduce Paul. They’d also slept together years ago when they were younger.


Eh. People are always looking for something to complain about. I did at first think that he raped her with the story that Rudy gave. But she made it clear that it was consensual. Although, it's still pretty messed up that he cheated on his wife.


Pretty hot imo tbh
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too few happaned, it was boring
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wait im confused the maid said she seduced Paul but then it is said that Paul sexually assaulted her?
an another thing, Roxy seems like she doesnt mind sexual harassment like wtf
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Damn i was hopin they would show the maid having sexy times.. what a wasted opportunity.

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Interessante como a história está se desenvolvendo...
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Damn Paul's strong but absolute scum ngl, at least the family stuck together and were able to move past it. I feel bad for the wife
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I love the way they showed off the potential of sword styles with Paul. I also like how the story is starting to pick up
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Man, that intro is really growing on me, like it. Not sure what Paul is doing though, I guess that's the job for Rudeus? Sounds like he won't be able to see Sylphiette in the near future though, that seems kinda cruel by Paul. Also Paul, you have Zenith in your bed every day and still make moves on another woman? What the heck, bro?
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Absolute Banger. Visuals, plot and characters are all very well amde.
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This show really does know its pacing.
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So Paul is a total degenerate and Rudeus isn't far behind. Damn the Greyrat family's going places.

Sylphie is my favorite character so far. Such an adorable soul in a sea of family drama.
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