TBone9

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I agree it's extremely hypocritical
"This underage girl is okay and I'll jerk off to her but this other one is more underage so I am going to make a fit and preach about morality, even tho I knew it was coming from miles away and technically we already saw it before with a boy but since it's a boy but not a girl I guess it's slightly better in my invisible morality scale"
Also, along those same lines: "This portrayal is OK, because all this is just fiction and computer rendering and no real people are involved, but this other portrayal is morally wrong because reasons."
 

Muk_king

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I think there is meant to be a contrast between the way Wizards like Tsukasa/Chinami or past Maya/Noriko are treated vs how Io or Uta were treated before the time loop.

Especially Io (what even was Stomachache). It looks like Selebus is offering different situations and contexts to see what makes us more okay or less okay with things.

For instance, it is clear that Tsukasa not at all a standard person. Some kind of super prodigy. But with extreme emotional insecurity, as might be found at point of development.

The fact LiL doesn't shy away from a nuanced exploration like this makes it unique.
 

Deathfollows

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They both died before the fuckery started.

The fuckery loops from mid/late summer to early January. If the phone call Maki got is to be taken at face value, he died in June. There is no June within the time loop -- meaning he was already dead when the game began.
Yeah this was my meaning. though it could be seen that ch3 is in the spring time but would be after both of those incidents happened.
 

Deathfollows

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If you’re asking about location-wise, yes Sekai’s death took place in Kumon-mi. Akira visited where the accident happened with Niki’s assistance.
more of a place and time than just a place. i suppose i should have been more specific. according to maki, makotos dad died several months previous and would have happened before the loops.
 

Deathfollows

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I think it has been established that Sel does this on purpose to stir up the community and provoke comments, just like a controversial TikTok influencer would.
That's very Nodoka of him.

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this is very true. sel constantly riles up the discord with random shit.
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Deathfollows

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I would also like to share my tier list! I do not have access to the tier list website link so just visualize it in your head as you read this:

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S++: Ami

B: Sana, Yumi, Touka, Yasu
C: Ayane, Tsuneyo, Niki
D: Rin

Z (don't care about these): everyone else
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- Ami is #1 because her events are the most interesting imo and she's cute and I like yandere/insane

- Sana: adult form is cute as fuck and I like shy/quiet
- Yumi: has nice boobs and kind of reminds me of a pitiable dog, i always remember her "stuck in the vortex" event even tho i last read it years ago
- Touka: I don't know why, probably just 'cause she has nice boobs. honestly i should downgrade her to C tier for that
- Yasu: has an endearing innocence and her "evil smile" is nice =)

- Ayana: I like how much she loves Akira, and she shows her love differently than the other girls who are "in love" with him
- Tsuneyo: often has exciting events and probably has nice boobs. And her humor level is off the charts!
- Niki: her backstory with Akira is great

D Tier
- Rin: tbh I greatly prefer her ch1 form over her current form, it was good enough that it deserves to be in B tier, and I will place her current form in D tier just because of how good her ch1 form was

Z tier
Yea I don't really care about the other girls tbh. In fact, I find most of the other girls kind of annoying at times (especially Kaori, Maya, Makoto, Imani, Molly (sometimes), Futaba, Haruka, Maki, Sara, Yuki, Nao, Chika, Miku, etc. - I realize I've just listed like 1/5th of the cast xD). Once in a while there'll be an event for them that I like but I'm generally indifferent to them
Ayana? who's that? lol kidding Ayane is my top girl. for the same reasons you said but also because she is strong, intelligent, and loyal to a fault. (you dont see her strength until after she meets Daisy though).

also if you want the tier list just google Lessons in love tier maker. there are several.
 
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Deathfollows

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So what happend to the wiki? Used to be up to date like right away and had very detailed descriptions too. They haven't even put Ami's cut hair pic up yet and that's been for a few updates now.
the guy that works on it has been dragging ass. though it has been updated the main events havent been.
 

Moonflare

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Made another tierlist, but this one's a question: which one has the most interesting mother/daughter dynamic?
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There are a couple of dead people, but well, sometimes you have a dynamic with the memory of the dead person (Chika has inherited her responsabilities for instance).

Also added Wires as a placeholder for Tsuneyo's mom cause, well, single "parent"/"god" (?). And some tinfoil hats in the end.

So, which household has the most interesting dynamic between mothers and daughters?

Edit: refined the purpose of the question.
 
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LessonsInDissonance

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Made another tierlist, but this one's a question: which one is the best mother/daughter(s) household?
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Also added Wires as a placeholder for Tsuneyo's mom cause, well, why not. And some tinfoil hats in the end. I find this interesting because it's easier to choose a single character, but harder to evaluate groupings against eachother. So, which one is the best?
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GSwole

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the guy that works on it has been dragging ass. though it has been updated the main events havent been.
theres several working together on it as a group but its a passion project for them and the last main person to head the efforts got kicked by selebussy for banning a "troll" account editing the wiki that turned out to be sel pulling a prank and is now done with the community. so if you hate the speed/consistency of wiki updates then blame the big ego manchild himself
 

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Good morning/afternoon/evening you extremely weird people, my people, i am here to inform you all that i just learned the DJ Deadmau5 is supposed to be pronounced 'deadmouse'. One would think the Helmet design would give this right away but no, no, one would also think that my having grown up right in the middle the age bracket most associated with the leetspeak era would also make it painfully easy for me to recognise this most obvious of things... but no, no... worry not, for you too can achieve such feats if you dump half your points in maxing out 'autism' instead of something actually useful.
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DeSkel15

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Made another tierlist, but this one's a question: which one has the most interesting mother/daughter dynamic?
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There are a couple of dead people, but well, sometimes you have a dynamic with the memory of the dead person (Chika has inherited her responsabilities for instance).

Also added Wires as a placeholder for Tsuneyo's mom cause, well, single "parent"/"god" (?). And some tinfoil hats in the end.

So, which household has the most interesting dynamic between mothers and daughters?

Edit: refined the purpose of the question.
Just to put this out there: It seems like Molly has been heavily influenced by her Mother. Whether it be by her suicide or her interest in Fae. It doesn't come up much, but her Mother is still playing a part in her life. It's likely what's led to Molly being Molly.

Similar could be said with Ayane and her Mother, although her mother seemed to just straight up abandon her, and Ayane can't help but still write her letters that she has nowhere to send. It's influenced her entire outlook on being a mother and she probably wouldn't be nearly as attached to Sensei and Ami if her mother never just up and left.

Then there's Yasu and her Mother...well, Yasu doesn't seem to think that she's even had a mother, and what we've seen of Yasu's past shows her mother seeing her more as a monster and a burden. Yasu being attached to some god makes sense, and Touka's somewhat become a pseudo mother for her (and Sensei).

Sara's mother seemed to either abandon her or let Sara's father beat Sara, and let's not even get started on Io's despicable pedophile of a mother. Etc.

Overall: I definitely think the Sekai/Ami Mother Daughter Dynamic is the most interesting. Seems to be at the core of this game, and, even after her death, Sekai still seems to be fucking people up including her own daughter. If there was a multiple choice for my reason why, I'd probably choose:
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Quite a few mothers have played significant roles in their daughter's lives, though. For better or worse.
 
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